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As I may have mentioned earlier…

“t” is for “torture”

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As Jesus said, “Torture ye the bastards!”

Churchgoers more likely to back torture, survey finds

WASHINGTON (CNN) — The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they are to support the torture of suspected terrorists, according to a new analysis.

More than half of people who attend services at least once a week — 54 percent — said the use of torture against suspected terrorists is “often” or “sometimes” justified. Only 42 percent of people who “seldom or never” go to services agreed, according the analysis released Wednesday by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life.

White evangelical Protestants were the religious group most likely to say torture is often or sometimes justified — more than 6 in 10 supported it. People unaffiliated with any religious organization were least likely to back it. Only 4 in 10 of them did.

The analysis is based on a Pew Research Center survey of 742 American adults conducted April 14-21. It did not include analysis of groups other than white evangelicals, white non-Hispanic Catholics, white mainline Protestants, and the religiously unaffiliated, because the sample size was too small.

the view from atop the cross

Of course, this clearly points out the dire consequences for western civilization and indeed, for all of mankind, if we were to see any furtherance of secularism which has no moral underpinnings.  It would be the end of the world as we have known it.

h/t Crooks and Liars

Kinsley writes half a column

I consider Kinsley one of the smartest and best political writers around.  It is usually the case that I will get the end of a column by him a bit brighter and with a fresh enthusiasm for sentences as art and also with an admiration for a level of clear-headed honesty he manages where so many others of us cannot or do not.

But today’s column in the Washington Post isn’t typical Kinsley. The last half (or third or whatever) is missing.

Yes, as a civic entity, we ought to acknowledge how flippant and facile we were (and remain, very many of us) in accepting torture perpetrated by people we elected then elected again.  But there is really only one remedy for this cultural or nationalist failing, and that is to shove the facts mercilessly into our own consciousnesses.  He doesn’t provide this necessary ameliorative but he ought to have done so.

Tom Tomorrow

Read him at Salon

The sort of logic you just can’t fault

Fox News Brian Kilmeade (on his radio show speaking with Judge Andrew Napolitano) explains why John McCain ought not to voice opinions on the subject of torture (which of course McCain suffered while a POW in Viet Nam)

KILMEADE: But he was tortured, he was tortured.

NAPOLITANO: And his views of torture are irrelevant?

KILMEADE: Are skewed.

NAPOLITANO: Because of what happened to him?

KILMEADE: Are skewed.

NAPOLITANO: I think his views are particularly telling.

KILMEADE: But what do you think, he’s going to be pro-torture after having been through it?

NAPOLITANO: No, of course he’s not going to be pro-torture.

Think Progress

Today’s bonus quote – “Holes” category

Andrew Sullivan on Cheney and Bush decision to begin torturing people

Bush and Cheney removed those foundations and where they once were, a deep and dark hole lies open to the world.

It is their Ground Zero.

Imagine

It’s monday morning and a US Army general at Gitmo, an evangelical Christian, walks in on two soldiers torturing a prisoner – perhaps slamming his head repeatedly against a concrete wall or perhaps suspending him with his hands cuffed to the ceiling for days.

Later, on monday afternoon, the US Army general walks in on those same two soldiers and they are alone and engaged in fellatio.